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EE 2.0 Licensing

Today at the opening keynote of the EECI 2009 conference in Leiden, The Netherlands, EllisLab President Leslie Camacho reveals the pricing for EE 2.0:

  • Non-commercial $149 (used to be $99)
  • Freelancer: $99 (for own website, not clients)
  • Commercial $299 (used to be $249)
  • Upgrade: $50 (from 1.6.3+)

Also: Each 2.0 license purchase includes a download to the current 1.6.x version.

Posted on Oct 21, 2009 by Ryan Irelan

Filed Under: Conferences, EECI 2009

Aziz Light23:22 on 10.21.2009

Does that mean that there won’t be a free version of EE 2.0 (EE 2.0 Core)?

Luc00:28 on 10.22.2009

The freelancer option is a very good idea - means those who haven’t switched can try it out on ourselves on a semi-pro basis to recommend to clients, rather than using them as guinea pigs…

Cormac00:50 on 10.22.2009

I am a bit disappointed with this, I already find the license a hard sell at times, and this doesn’t help the case against Wordpress or other free software.

Yes, the support and features are important, but they are more important for us as designers / developers, rather than the end client - They just want a CMS that works!

Emily aka Gradualist01:17 on 10.22.2009

That is exactly the point Cormac, the cost is something we designer/developers can see the value in, because it makes our job so much easier. I often don’t even mention the cost of the license because it’s something I choose to cover as part of my running costs, because it makes development so much easier and quicker.

I would spend longer customising (and troubleshooting w/out the support) a Wordpress site - so then the cost would come out the same.  Yes, the support and features help US, but this in turn helps THEM (clients) because they will pay for less of our time.

Perhaps for *really* simple/small brochure websites Wordpress is a better option (or a mini-CMS like Perch could be even better?) - but at a certain scale choosing EE is a no-brainer.

bjornbjorn01:29 on 10.22.2009

yeah, if all the client needs is a blog then use Wordpress. For something more complicated, use EE.

Brendon Carr01:32 on 10.22.2009

I’m curious about the $50 upgrade price “from 1.6.3+”. Surely this doesn’t mean that the long-time licenseholders (for example, the EE 1.0 plank owners) have to shell out the full price? That’s a fine how-do-you-do for the people who’ve been dutifully renewing their download area subscription for six years.

Cormac01:34 on 10.22.2009

I totally agree with you Emily, for me choosing EE is almost always a no-brainer, and for those very reasons. But as a small company in a competitive market every little added cost makes a difference, and I like to be completely transparent with my clients as to where their money is going.

My point is more that if a client has received a quote from my company including EE, and another for the same project from another company including Wordpress, it means spending more time justifying the cost/value - which is plain as day to you and me, but to a client with a tight budget the value isn’t as apparent.

Lee01:59 on 10.22.2009

I will assume the same discount structure on 2.0 purchases?

Will past purchase quantities affect 2.0 purchases prices.. ie: If I have purchased 10 1.X licenses will I get X% off any new 2.0 purchases..

Time will tell I guess…

golic04:15 on 10.22.2009

If the cost of EE is a deal breaker, you are either living in a third-world country, or you are the “nephew building a website” that we all loathe and is currently featured in Intuit’s latest commercial.

Brian04:37 on 10.22.2009

Good way to put it golic.

You don’t have to mention the cost of the CMS to the client. Just roll it into the development costs. And besides… $300, big deal… that should be equal to 2-3 hours of development time. Are you willing to spend $300, or 30 extra hours of your time hacking the hell out of WP?

Greg05:14 on 10.22.2009

What Golic said. ExpressionEngine is some of the most underpriced software in the CMS market today. If you’re clients can’t appreciate that then either you have poor communication skills or very, very poor clients.

Cormac05:51 on 10.22.2009

No one said it was a deal breaker, all I was trying to say is that extra costs can be the difference between getting a job sometimes. If that isn’t the case with you, well done.

Jon06:17 on 10.22.2009

Is there still going to be a core version?

Adam Smith06:33 on 10.22.2009

I’m disappointed. If anything I would have expected prices to come down a little, not increase.

The freelancing option is great, but $300 for the commercial version is quite a large chunk of change. I also foresee issues when trying to convince clients to go with a $300 CMS when there are others which are free.

Chad Crowell06:58 on 10.22.2009

Adam, I don’t know your client type, but why even mention the cost of the CMS?  Sell its features, get the job, eat the cost.  If you are doing jobs in the $1000-$2500 range I can see this being a problem, but a few thousand or more?  Just eat it.

I’ll point back to a comment I made in an earlier blog post about this http://eeinsider.com/articles/using-the-custom-profile-data-tag/#comment-176 - the gist: doesn’t the power speed and flexibility of EE save you $249 (or even $299) of time when building a site when compared to (many) other CMS platforms?

Ira Siegel08:38 on 10.22.2009

Can’t wait and still a good deal and far superior to WP, or any other CMSs for that matter. Rolling it into the quote is no big deal and totally worth it.

tzInsider10:08 on 10.22.2009

$39 bucks would of struck me as an upgrade bargain.. just me
I’m guessing there’ll still be a demo version for trial purposes etc, at least I’m hoping.

Danny Garcia13:01 on 10.22.2009

I think this sounds fair. $250 for a commercial license was too high for my personal website but $300 isn’t hard for clients who spend thousands on a good website.

Can’t wait to see EE 2.0 later this year. I’ll definitely be upgrading.

Stephen Pratley08:07 on 10.24.2009

I really hope the ‘core’ license or some sort of trial period will be maintained.

Most developers will just pass it by if there’s no free demo to cut their teeth on and the community is bound to shrink over time. $99 isn’t a lot, but only once you know what you’re getting and that takes time for the developer to discover.

tbh I wouldn’t have bothered with EE for a long time if I hadn’t had the core version, and Boyink’s excellent tutorials to show how EE can build sites without screwing up my HTML.

Shotwell10:18 on 10.27.2009

Wow, it’s finally going to be here. I’m, ahem, speechless.